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a) I made it clear that i dont think calling someones work stupid is impolite, or someone calls my work stupid i wont say its impolite . Because he may be right. Criticizing someones work does not have to be polite.
b) My english is not great but i think you literally call me a peasant (correct me if i am wrong about peasant part) and my comment shit " take head to these words peasant ""Your comments is shit " "you're comment is the ultimate shit pile"" bullshit argument". After you said "no ones allowed to start disrespecting/cursing at anyone". What? WHATT?? You guys are trying to tell me that i insult them with calling new update stupid and yet you call my comments shit and call me a peasant(correct me if i understand wrong about peasant part). You know in my country we call people like you HYPOCRITE
c) Well i am not gonna whine like you guys do about the part that you called my comment is shit because you may be right about my comment but about calling me peasant (again correct me if i am wrong) you just tried to insult me. Shame.
2-) "That the devs said they would be working mostly on the dedicated server and not the actual gameplay for this update but still gave a damn love letter to the community." Thats cool.
3-)" First what the hells wrong with not listening to the minority's?" Why the hell am i called a minority all the time. I don't care if i am or not i have rights to tell what i think is true even though no one agrees with me. And even in this case some people thinks the way i do. And there is no such thing as majorities thought are always right. And"There's a reason no one listens to the minority's, it because they make the game and stuff general bad most of the time" well if no one listens the minorities how can we know that their ideas is going to make the game or stuff bad? And you say most of the time well maybe this is not one of that most of the time. Plus i am not coming a with a new idea , i am saying their old work was better.
4-)"why you would even say anything about the damn community if your not speaking for them" i said "I don't think that people had problems with original legs". i didn't say " people didn't have problems with old legs" I used the word " think" because i wasn't sure about what all the community thinks about old legs . Then i said " Now you change it and some people didn't like it." and i meant myself, Raline and Player1. I talk for myself but these guys and i think alike. And i said "you have to find a way to make everyone ok with it."I was talking about myself again.
5-) "and who the hell said the devs don't listen to the community?" The DEVELOPERS themself said. You said people were waiting for legs customization for 3 years, people want it from developers and they didn't listen them for 3 years and when they finally bring back leg customization it wasnt because of your opinions it was because they thought its the right thing to do. And Devs literally said they will never implement pants ""RELGAP's comment"" "I like how you guys said you would NEVER implement pants. Suddenly we have them? What?"and plus DEVELOPERS said that they are not changing things with opinions of people "HJARPE'S COMMENT""Plans change. We weren't going to add female characters either, but thinking about campaigns made it clear that we needed more character diversity. That in turn inspired me to add some traditionally female clothing which made it seem worth the effort to add leg customization. It's about what makes sense for the game, not about public opinion." And plus they repeat it again on my comment that they are not adding things to the game with public opinion "HJARPE'S COMMENT AGAIN""Again, we don't change things because of what people think. The people who complain tend to be a vocal minority anyway, most players don't ever post on the forum. A particularly well-argued post can give us the idea to change something, but if it doesn't fit the game, we won't do it."" And i come to the conclusion "Basically what you are saying is that you don't care about the community and you are just picking their ideas, that you like, to make your game better ,in a way that you like." Well am i wrong now? As you can see they said it not me.
6-) "but hell not even one Constructive Word!" :
a) I love how you say to me i am not making constructive comments but not the other guys such as"RALINE'S COMMENT"""I hate new legs, my character look shitty." or "WOZENBELT'S COMMENT""They all look really bad and ridiculous, and I wish that they would change back. The female fighter sprites should be redone entirely. I don't know what creature of the depths you guys summoned up in this update, but it's not a female. Also, I don't like Pistons. It relies too heavily on gimmicks.". They didn't make suggestions like you said. But you are only attacking me. You know how we call people like you in my country.
b) As you can see in my comment i said "instead saying their opinions doesn't matter you can easily say " what didn't you like?" or " how do you think it can be better?" which will make you understand how your work can be better." . as you can see In my first comment i was actually waiting for their reaction to my comment. If they wanted me to be more specific i would happily write the parts how to fix the parts that i didn't like. But instead they told me that they are not trying please everyone, plus opinion of people does not matter in the end. So ? Why should i bother?
7-) " they look almost identical to the old legs. how do you even find fault in this, how!?" well let me try to explain because you at least asked how. Even 3 - 4 pixels change so many things in the style.( You can see page 3 for the comparision images of splinter).
New guy looks like he is about the jump or he is in the middle of a squat. When i look at the new style i can't feel like its an original drawing of an original character, just a casual character with shoes and frog like new legs. Plus black legs made a heavy feeling to the game. It was the only non-colorable part of the character so however people have tried they could't look like clowns. Well until now. On the first day of the update i played in a server where 5 very well known players colored themselfs in different colors ( like full yellow another guy full red etc) and calling themselfs sperms of something.The game looks more childish right now. I hope you got my point.
8--)"it's because all you said was that the legs where ugly, the female fighters are just skinny male fighters(even though they have boobs)" i have someone with me in this case "WOZENBELT'S COMMENT AGAIN""The female fighter sprites should be redone entirely. I don't know what creature of the depths you guys summoned up in this update, but it's not a female." i agree. For a good example of female drawing see the image in first page JUDY HOPS 's post. I dont think i have to write more.
9-)""it plays like a custom map"..... I don't get this, is it suppose to mean something?" it does but well you are someone who likes custom maps so its normal that you can't understand. But let me try to explain it too since you have asked.
a) Pistons : A map that is already made by community thousands of time. Its nothing original more like get to a standing still platform, and shoot the guys below. Cliche. And again "WOZENBELT'S COMMENT""Also, I don't like Pistons. It relies too heavily on gimmicks."
b) Canals : This one is actually better. Its not terrible. Still it feels like so many things added to such a small map. Its quite hard to use features of game in this map too such as rocked riding. It may have been better if it was a bigger map.
10-)"Ughhhh and reading to that bullshit argument about the devs not listening to the community when they clearly do was even more burdensome." SEE 5-)
11-) seriously all they said was that "we don't change things because of what people think" how is this wrong? Most suggestions on the fourms can't be used in the game and others are just plain bad, and I mean really bad.
a-) I didn't say that its wrong. I said thats what they are doing and wish them good luck. You should read more carefully.
b-) I don't care what people suggests. I don't care if suggestions are bad or good. What i said them is that old version was better and i am disappointed. That is not even a suggestion.
12-) "there are so many faults in your argument that I really wanted to fix that" you didn't try to fix anything at all you just blindly tried to attack me.
13-) they can lead to misunderstandings like with del poncho and use more Constructive criticism not destructive criticism.
a) I really don't care about misunderstandings. If you misunderstand something you ask to person what he meant. You won't try to attack him with calling impolite, unproductive etc.
b) My criciticism didn't destroy anything. And it didn't Contruct anything too because they weren't supposed to be ( SEE 5-) and 6-) b))
EDIT: Yellow parts are the comments not written by me i wrote who made the comment. And the yellow comments without the name belongs to Failman in case you are confused.
